May I ask you something Fish and the rest of the known men in the group --- I am not being all AG, just wanting to know, did you buy or give your wife a diamond ring? How did you feel about that? I would like to explore how men feel about the unfair roles put on them. Perhaps I should put up an open thread? Take EotS in a new direction for a bit?
Snag, cobag is soooo 2005. Dual bag is the new cobag and black!
LOL. Great, I say we treat men the way they treat us then, be fair about it! Hilarious.
Sexism is sexism. Like racism is racism. To call it reverse, is, well, sexist.
And it's sexist on the man's part the whole diamond thing. Created by the diamond industry as a marketing tool. It's new, and it's sexist toward women in that men think we can be bought with shinies and the advertising industry is sexist for making it look like some age old tradition so we think we need one, and women are smart enough to just want the rock if men stupid enough to buy it for us, but it sure as hell isn't a role imposed on men by women.
The Lovely Bride wanted a diamond and I wanted to buy one for her. I'm a traditionalist. Same reason I wear the wedding band she gave me.
I don't see it as a moral or political issue. God knows the ring she wears doesn't suggest to anyone who knows us that I have dominion over her. And as far as I'm concerned, the ring she gave me is nothing more or less than a tangible reminder that someone loves me. It counterbalances the albatrosses that life keeps draping around my neck.
I don't get to give my "wife" a diamond ring cuz I can't get married according to state statutes. (Ex con. and/or gay)
I see no inherent value in jewelry. Flash that shit in my face or demand it from me and run into a brick wall. I would rather give canned dog food. (But I'm a bitter old man.)
I do have friends that gave each other toe rings when they got married. But that's a lot like when (if) I ever get married, it'll be that thing that we do with that other person and the state/religious reich won't recognize it. Secret symbols. Whatevers.
First of all, I've been calling The Skimmer Duel Bag for weeks now! It's his new nickname!
I love this JC Pennys' spot. I think it's so well done and completely hysterical. I hope those guys get get more work. Especially the lead guy who looks like Ed Harris, sort of. He was great!
Now onto diamonds. I'm like Snag with the whole traditional thing. And I *love* my engagement ring and my wedding ring. Many diamonds sparkle from my left ring finger. But, that being said. I feel guilty about buying diamonds from the whole "conflict diamond" angle. I hate that we have to buy this stuff (or feel we want this stuff) at the expense of others' misery. It's horrible!
I haven't received (diamond) jewelry from The Skimmer in years. And that's fine by me.
Geez. I *just* noticed the label on this post! LOL. Sorry.
This comment thread may be dead, dead, dead. And no one's gonna read this, but I do have a question just in case.
And I mean no disrespect here nor am I on an attack of any kind. I am just curious.
Must everything be viewed through a political angle? Aren't there times when something can be funny just because it is? It just seems like, all the joy just gets sucked out of everything right off the bat because we have to attach some kind of *meaning* to it politically.
I totally understand the whole "sexist" angle of this spot. I've also seen others say that they hated it simply because it was "advertising." You know, our Corporate Lords and all that.
Do we not give ourselves credit to know that already? Don't we have a choice whether or not we want to participate in something like "diamond rings" out of tradition or just because we want to?
And if we do give ourselves that much credit, is it that we don't give other people credit for being as smart as we are?
Like I said above, I'm not on the attack. Might sound like I am. But, I'm not.
If anyone's open to discussing this -- I'm all for it.
What? Nobody can even make the easy cobag joke?
ReplyDeleteQuiche!! Hahahaha. That's hilarious.
ReplyDeleteNot sure what reverse sexism is though.
LULZ!
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ReplyDeleteThe reverse sexism is that none of those guys ever got a diamond necklace to make them feel pretty.
ReplyDeleteExactly, Fish.
ReplyDeleteMay I ask you something Fish and the rest of the known men in the group --- I am not being all AG, just wanting to know, did you buy or give your wife a diamond ring? How did you feel about that? I would like to explore how men feel about the unfair roles put on them. Perhaps I should put up an open thread? Take EotS in a new direction for a bit?
Snag, cobag is soooo 2005. Dual bag is the new cobag and black!
Unfair roles?
ReplyDeleteLOL. Great, I say we treat men the way they treat us then, be fair about it! Hilarious.
Sexism is sexism. Like racism is racism. To call it reverse, is, well, sexist.
And it's sexist on the man's part the whole diamond thing. Created by the diamond industry as a marketing tool. It's new, and it's sexist toward women in that men think we can be bought with shinies and the advertising industry is sexist for making it look like some age old tradition so we think we need one, and women are smart enough to just want the rock if men stupid enough to buy it for us, but it sure as hell isn't a role imposed on men by women.
The Lovely Bride wanted a diamond and I wanted to buy one for her. I'm a traditionalist. Same reason I wear the wedding band she gave me.
ReplyDeleteI don't see it as a moral or political issue. God knows the ring she wears doesn't suggest to anyone who knows us that I have dominion over her. And as far as I'm concerned, the ring she gave me is nothing more or less than a tangible reminder that someone loves me. It counterbalances the albatrosses that life keeps draping around my neck.
Thanks for sharing that, Snag.
ReplyDeleteI think you answered something personal for me. So, double thanks!
Any others willing to share. And please, no judgement on what folks share. This is a learning opportunity.
I don't get to give my "wife" a diamond ring cuz I can't get married according to state statutes. (Ex con. and/or gay)
ReplyDeleteI see no inherent value in jewelry. Flash that shit in my face or demand it from me and run into a brick wall. I would rather give canned dog food. (But I'm a bitter old man.)
I do have friends that gave each other toe rings when they got married. But that's a lot like when (if) I ever get married, it'll be that thing that we do with that other person and the state/religious reich won't recognize it. Secret symbols. Whatevers.
First of all, I've been calling The Skimmer Duel Bag for weeks now! It's his new nickname!
ReplyDeleteI love this JC Pennys' spot. I think it's so well done and completely hysterical. I hope those guys get get more work. Especially the lead guy who looks like Ed Harris, sort of. He was great!
Now onto diamonds. I'm like Snag with the whole traditional thing. And I *love* my engagement ring and my wedding ring. Many diamonds sparkle from my left ring finger. But, that being said. I feel guilty about buying diamonds from the whole "conflict diamond" angle. I hate that we have to buy this stuff (or feel we want this stuff) at the expense of others' misery. It's horrible!
I haven't received (diamond) jewelry from The Skimmer in years. And that's fine by me.
Doesn't mean he's not a Duel Bag!!!!1
I just watched it again.
ReplyDeleteLOLOLOLOLOL into infinity!!!!
Keep working on the folding, Donnie.
ReplyDeleteBa-Bye!
Geez. I *just* noticed the label on this post! LOL. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteThis comment thread may be dead, dead, dead. And no one's gonna read this, but I do have a question just in case.
And I mean no disrespect here nor am I on an attack of any kind. I am just curious.
Must everything be viewed through a political angle? Aren't there times when something can be funny just because it is? It just seems like, all the joy just gets sucked out of everything right off the bat because we have to attach some kind of *meaning* to it politically.
I totally understand the whole "sexist" angle of this spot. I've also seen others say that they hated it simply because it was "advertising." You know, our Corporate Lords and all that.
Do we not give ourselves credit to know that already? Don't we have a choice whether or not we want to participate in something like "diamond rings" out of tradition or just because we want to?
And if we do give ourselves that much credit, is it that we don't give other people credit for being as smart as we are?
Like I said above, I'm not on the attack. Might sound like I am. But, I'm not.
If anyone's open to discussing this -- I'm all for it.
Oh, AG. Just ignore me. I was being a jerk. Yes! I was! I've been down in the dumps and was an idiot the other night.
ReplyDeleteEven though, I can say that us liberals analyze things to death. Me included.
Hope you didn't think this was attacking you. It wasn't. It was my own screwed up mind twisting things around.
Hope you enjoy your holidays! And here's to a less jerky me in 2009!